Although the 'Queens' could easily manage 27 or 28 knots, they were reduced to the convoy's common speed of around 20 knots. On 11th July Bates replied asking Piggot to, Cunard was determined that the new ship would be based on the latest revolutionary developments that had taken place in naval architecture and marine engineering. Years indicate year of entry into Cunard service. The National Archives holds all the surviving crew lists and agreements for the Second World War and the succeeding years up to 1950. It was certainly the last time that the two 'Queens' ever stopped at sea in war time. These earlier records were organised by port of registry and then alphabetically by name of ship (see the respective sections below for advice on finding earlier records). An unplanned lengthy mid-voyage stopover allowed the new owners to fly spare parts out to the ship and carry out repairs before resuming the course to Hong Kong Harbour, where she arrived in July 1971. At 11.15am the following day the QUEEN ELIZABETH was safely berthed at Port Everglades and the final, often fatal, order on the bridge telegraph was rung to the engine room: 'Finished with Engines'. The, After disembarking the U.S. troops at Sydney on 6th April 1942, the QUEEN ELIZABETH remained in port for thirteen days before sailing for Fremantle on 19th April. This was simply a record of the total number of crew (known as a muster roll), but it evolved into what are known as crew lists and agreements. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. The view ahead on a sunny day in the North Atlantic. To locate crew lists for these years you will need to know the name of the ship on which an individual seaman sailed. This was not a record breaking passage, and not surpassing the time of her running mate, the Queen Mary, but on this occasion no special effort was made to accomplish that feat. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. In the early morning fog of 28th November 1968, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton for the last time. In mid Atlantic on 6th June she steamed 700 miles at an average of 30.43 knots, her fastest day's run since entering passenger service after the war. GGA Image ID # 1d3776ba5f. For the two meals a day that were provided there were six sittings, each of forty-five minutes. John Brown Image The queen is greeted by Sir Percy Bates of Cunard John Brown Image The front cover of the official launching booklet for the Queen Elizabeth The QUEEN ELIZABETH was embedded in mud to a point just below the bridge. With potentially upward of 500 crew requiring to scramble up from their quarters below, the sheer climb would have presented quite a hazard, particularly in bad weather and at a time of emergency. From the mid 1940s until the mid 1950s both the 'Queens' were given a short summer overhaul at Southampton. Four days later she arrived at Halifax, Nova Scotia, with 12,517 passengers and 864 crew. Although the QUEEN ELIZABETH could carry 2,200 passengers, the number would be limited to about 1,200 whilst cruising. She was there to launch the second of Cunard's superliners - the QUEEN ELIZABETH. A serious fire broke out in No.4 boiler room on 13th February and was fortunately brought under control. GGA Image ID # 1d3753c0c2, RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Stateroom. sails up the Hudson (the North River) to her berth at Pier 90. The two ships' real potential had yet to be appreciated. And so rota pilot F.G. Dawson boarded the, A signal for assistance was sent and - within the hour - the company, port and salvage officials were on board and in conference with Captain Ford. In the entrance channel to the harbour at Port Everglades a second boiler blew and the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY now had just four boilers functioning out of a possible twelve. At eleven o'clock that evening Captain Townley opened his sealed orders and the, Towards the end of 1940 additional seamen arrived on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, having travelled from Halifax, N.S. leaves Southampton on her first ever commercial voyage. It was pointed out to the Southern Railway Company, the owners of Southampton Docks, that by 1933 a dry dock capable of taking a vessel 1,075 feet in length would be needed. The new QUEEN ELIZABETH passes Mariners' Park, Wallasey. When a speed of 25 knots had been reached and maintained for one hour, the escorting warships were informed that the 'engine trials' had been satisfactory and that there was no objection to their standing down. With ' Queen Mary' she provided weekly luxury liner service between Southampton in the United Kingdom and New York City in the United States, via Cherbourg in France. The work would include the installation of full air conditioning, the fitting of private showers and toilets in much of the cabin class and tourist class accommodation, and the creation of a lido at the after end of the promenade deck, incorporating an outdoor heated swimming pool. They would follow the natural progression of developments then taking place in marine engineering and in naval architecture. Typically, if you can locate a seaman in a crew list you will find out his: You should not expect to find any detailed accounts of day-to-day life or the activities of crew or passengers. In July the ship was sold for $8.64 million to a company called Queen Inc. Cunard had warned the new buyers against carrying passengers and would have nothing to do with the bookings, but nevertheless carried the blame in the eyes of the disgruntled passengers. Some 10,000 men could, perhaps, be carried in safety according to the lifeboat and liferaft capacity of the ship, but it was considered that the extra 5,000 men who were carried in summer and not provided for in the life-saving equipment were worth the risk, based on the Elizabeth's existing records of speed and reliability. Passenger accommodation in 1960: 800 first, 650 cabin, 700 third. After V.E. In December 1974 the decision was taken to scrap the remains of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Costing almost twice as much as the, Sir Percy Bates had wisely waited for anticipated developments in boiler design to occur. WebAll surviving agreements and crew lists with their logbooks are held by The National Archives, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU. The other ships that were in Southampton that unhappy morning saluted the QUEEN ELIZABETH as she passed but received no acknowledgement to their respectful signals. The outcome was the Cunard (Insurance) Act, passed in December 1930. The QUEEN ELIZABETH (centre) and the QUEEN MARY (left). A parakeet flew in through an open porthole at New York and quickly became the mascot of the ship's officers who bought him a fancy cage and named him Joey. GGA Image ID # 1d36e82385 Queen Elizabeth (1940) Cunard Line Built by John Brown & Co., Clydebank, Glasgow, Scotland. Queen Elizabeth with Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret. This awe-inspiring warship is capable of carrying up to 40 aircraft. Rear Admiral Carruthers Joseph William. 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. The year 1960 proved to be another good one for Cunard. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth during the Second World War 1939-1945. After disembarking the U.S. troops at Sydney on 6th April 1942, the QUEEN ELIZABETH remained in port for thirteen days before sailing for Fremantle on 19th April. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. Use this guide for advice on how to find British merchant shipping records known as crew lists and agreements, originally known as muster books, and log books. Undoubtedly the incomplete QUEEN ELIZABETH was the greatest dilemma facing John Brown's on the outbreak of war. Throughout the 'G.I. WebNew York State, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1917-1967 to 1962 for NYC (fee-based - at Ancestry) Includes passenger and crew arrival lists (and some departure lists) for vessels that were filed at various ports (such as Binghamton, Buffalo, NYC, Niagara Falls, Oswego, Rochester, Syracuse, and other ports) in the state of New York. Following this ultimatum the Southern Railway decided to go ahead with the construction of a dry dock 1,200 feet in length, 135 feet wide and 48 feet deep, with a wide area outside the entrance for the ship to swing. It was against this background that the Cunard Company began the design stage for two new ships. Some of the publications below may be available to buy fromThe National Archives bookshop. The 1971 film version starring Connery used the P&O liner SSCanberra for the sequence. Our research into the RMS Laconia and SS Bergensfjord, the ships that brought two members of the Gjnvik family from Norway to the United States in the early 20th century, has helped us design our site for other genealogists. The loyalty that she was given by her crew, the lifeblood of any ship, was reflected in the service given to her passengers who patronised the ship in vast numbers time and time again. Early in the afternoon of 9th November a large, two-funnelled steamer was sighted, some six to seven miles away. Neville Chamberlain now had the difficult task of steering the North Atlantic Shipping (Advances) Bill through the tortuous channels of Parliament. These are undeniable facts. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. Seesection 7.2. Looking astern over the cabin-class sports deck. The following morning, 18th April 1947, she steamed into Southampton - fifty hours late ! WebRMS Queen Elizabeth Passenger Lists 1947-1954 RMS Queen Elizabeth, World's Largest Liner. Six years of war service had never permitted the formal sea trials to take place, so they were now finally undertaken. 534 was laid on 27th December 1930. This also suffered from low bookings and became known as the. The prospect to Cunard was just too daunting, and contributed greatly to the decision to dispose of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The National Archives of Australia has a large number of record series concerning ships crews and the merchant navy. The popularity of the two 'Queens' meant enormous profits for the Cunard Line and the two ships repaid their original investments many times over. The QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH met for the last time when they were both at sea. The climate of southern Florida was much harder on Queen Elizabeth than the climate of southern California was on Queen Mary. Flt.Lt. The Company's liners carried 207,563 passengers or 23.95% of the combined total of passengers carried by all transatlantic shipping lines in 1960. This, then, is the story of the QUEEN ELIZABETH, the world's largest liner. Suggestions ranged from laying up the Elizabeth in a sheltered Scottish loch to selling her to the Americans. The normal insurance market would not be able to provide cover for anything like the whole cost. Flt.Lt. [22] Despite specifications similar to those of Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth never held the Blue Riband, for Cunard White Star chairman Sir Percy Bates asked that the two ships do not try to compete against each other. One detonation was heard. CPO. As a result only twelve boilers were needed for the QUEEN ELIZABETH, rather than the twenty-four in the Mary. New York Mayor John Lindsay boarded the QUEEN ELIZABETH on sailing day 30th October to bid an official 'farewell'. The ship sat like a giant beacon in the middle of Clydebank, visible for miles around. Denials of this speculation by British shipping representatives were not accepted. In New York she found herself moored alongside both Queen Mary and the French Line's Normandie, the only time all three of the world's largest ocean liners were ever berthed together. The QUEEN ELIZABETH had now been in the water for over two years since her launch on 27th September 1938. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. The QUEEN MARY gained the Blue Riband for the fastest crossing of the Atlantic from the NORMANDIE in 1938, but the Cunard Line always refused to accept the trophy. Some two thirds of Cunard's passengers crossed the Atlantic on holiday: hence the company's slogan, In September 1959 an announcement was made to the effect that an independent committee of three, headed by Lord Chandos, had been set up to examine the Cunard Company's proposals for replacing the ', The year 1960 proved to be another good one for Cunard. [27] The fact that C.Y. These are undeniable facts. From 1857 onwards, the records are arranged in BT 98 by ships Official Number (ON). The Verandah Grill on the QUEEN ELIZABETH -, exclusively for the use of first-class passengers. Official logs are found with the agreements and crew lists, where they survive. [16] During her war service as a troopship, Queen Elizabeth carried more than 750,000 troops, and she also sailed some 500,000 miles (800,000km).[9]. The American liner made 44 Atlantic crossings and carried 70,104 passengers in 1955. Cunard always refused to acknowledge the recently introduced Hales Trophy as a tangible symbol of the achievement. It occurred one day out of Ceylon and Dr Maguire remembered waking suddenly because the engines were slowing down. In spite of the understandable Canadian protestations that they wanted their soldiers to step directly on to Canadian soil, Commodore Bisset recommended that future repatriations should be to either New York or Boston. He arrived at seven in the morning on Saturday 2nd March 1940 with sealed orders which were only to be opened when the QUEEN ELIZABETH was out at sea. The QUEEN ELIZABETH sailing from Southampton. 160,000 s.h.p. This limited the turn-round at both Southampton and New York to just 36 hours which by current standards sounds very leisurely indeed! In January 1931 agreement was reached with the New York Port Authority for a thousand-foot long pier at a rent of 48,000 a year. on her departure from the Clyde on 12th March 1966. A Schedule D form was headed Accounts Of Voyages And Crew For Home Trade Ship. WebLists can also include passengers who were family members of seamen. Suddenly there was a crash of breaking timbers and No.552, on her own volition, started on her un-named journey towards the Clyde. A bid of $3.2 million (1.3 million at 1969 rates of exchange) was made by the Island Navigation Company of Hong Kong. Another essential rule was that each man, regardless of rank, should wear or carry his lifebelt when outside his cabin at all times. Shuttle' the two Queens were never in the same port at the same time, and the schedules avoided either ship lying at anchor at Gourock during the period of full moon. The agreements were between master and crew and are also called Articles of agreement. She urgently needed to be drydocked to have the remains of her launch gear removed from her bottom plates which would then have to be cleaned and painted. Promenade deck 724 feet long. She then stopped for a few minutes before proceeding on her way. The QUEEN MARY found a buyerin the form of the City of Long Beach, California and she left Southampton on 31st October 1967 carrying 1,000 passengers on what was billed as 'The Last Great Cruise', involving a passage around Cape Horn. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was ready for her trials in early October and sailed for the Clyde on the sixth of the month. To ensure that good progress was maintained during construction, the General and Shipyard Managers met all the departmental head foremen at the gangway every Friday. The Elizabeth's final round voyage to New York left Southampton on 23rd October 1968. Cunard hoped that its continuing involvement with the QUEEN ELIZABETH would reap worthwhile benefits in the years to come. The QUEEN MARY (as '534' became after all the secrecy) was launched nearly six months later on 26th September 1934. It was proposed that the Cunard Steamship Company and the Oceanic Steamship Company (the White Star Line) would both sell their North Atlantic fleets and assets, including '534', to a new company to be called Cunard - White Star Limited. The QUEEN ELIZABETH had also been fitted with four miles of rubber coated copper cable would around her enormous hull. This, it is stated, is the largest number carried in any transatlantic ship during the year and gives an average of 1,593 passengers in each sailing. The object of fitting the coil (one of the first to be so fitted) was hopefully to render the ship immune from magnetic mines by neutralising the ship's magnetic field. Therefore Cunard approached the Government and asked them if they would bear the additional burden. Maritime History Archive holds approximately 70% of the crew lists and agreements for 1951-1976, but the records have not yet been indexed so contact them directly for search advice. This shipping empire was owned by a Mr C.Y. During two years of near neglect, deterioration had rapidly set in, especially in the fragile boiler tubes. The new ship was constructed on No.4 slipway by using 5-ton derrick cranes and a 10-ton tower crane. After a call at Rio de Janeiro, the Elizabeth finally arrived inNew York to begin what became known as the 'G.I. Two months later the purchasers realised that the river was not deep enough. When he asked for questions, one boy shot up his arm and asked: In November 1942, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was involved in an incident that still remains the subject of much speculation. was given a coloured disc or card (red, white or blue) and this indicated the section of the ship in which he must remain during the voyage. WebThe eight ships which were passed into the ownership of the new concern were - ALPS, ANDES, BRITISH QUEEN, DAMASCUS, LEBANON, KARNAK, TENERIFFE and TAURUS. To find a ships official number go to theCrew List Index Project(CLIP) website, which has information about merchant ships from 1855 to 1913, or theMiramar Ship Indexwebsite (subscription required) which lists some categories of merchant and naval ships. Use the search box contained withinBT 98 to search by year and name of ships port of registry. In May 1936 tenders were opened from John Brown, Cammell Laird, Vickers Armstrong and Swan Hunter. accompanied by Sir Percy Bates, the Cunard chairman. The RESCUE could not handle the ship on her own and so a second tug was summoned. [36], Ian Fleming set the climax to his 1956 James Bond novel Diamonds Are Forever on Queen Elizabeth. v3.0, date and place of joining and leaving the ship, reason for leaving the ship, whether discharged, drowned, or otherwise, the amount of money invested in the fund by each crew member (this was calculated on a pro rata basis at 6d per month), how disposed of (the nature of the seamans departure from the ship, whether discharged, drowned or otherwise). At 3.pm the liner commenced her northward run over the Arran measured mile and covered the course in 2 minutes 1.3 seconds which gave an average speed of 29.71 knots. Colonel Bates declared that Cunard philosophy had always been that air and sea travel are complementary rather than competitive on the North Atlantic. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth History Pages. By six o'clock the next morning, thirteen tugs had arrived from Southampton, Portsmouth Dockyard and Poole. Sir Percy Bates said that he liked to think that the Queens had, by their troop carrying capacities, shortened the war by a whole year. AB. The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. ", The promenade deck main square on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. A painting by Captain Stephen J Card of the two 'Queens' passing in, mid-Atlantic. Bisset was under strict instructions from Sir Percy Bates, who was also aboard the trials, that all that was required from the ship was two measured runs of no more than 30 knots and that she was not permitted to attempt to attain a higher speed record than Queen Mary. On 5th April 1968 Cunard announced its decision. They demanded 50 per man danger money-cum-bonus, but were given 30 plus 5 per month extra pay. For almosr five years John Brown & Company had carried on a correspondence with the Clyde Navigation Trust dealing with the safe navigation of the liner on her one and only journey to the open sea. It was controlled simply by the necessity to provide sufficient passenger accommodation and propulsion to operate a two-ship weekly express service across the North Atlantic. !!! It was out of the question for the Elizabeth to sail up to John Brown's shipyard at Clydebank, so it was planned to ferry men and equipment out to the liner as she lay at anchor off the Tail of the Bank. She urgently needed to be drydocked to have the remains of her launch gear removed from her bottom plates which would then have to be cleaned and painted. [31] Position of the wreck: .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .geo-nondefault,.mw-parser-output .geo-multi-punct{display:none}.mw-parser-output .longitude,.mw-parser-output .latitude{white-space:nowrap}221943N 1140644E / 22.32861N 114.11222E / 22.32861; 114.11222. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. The Americans wanted the work to be completed and then for the, The QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH met for the last time when they were both at sea. On Sunday 9th January 1972, three fires started simultaneously on board. The tender ROMSEY which had brought the officials out to the stricken ship made a solo attempt at pulling the liner off the mud, but the towline parted under the unequal strain. Many do not survive at all whilst significant proportions of those that do survive are held at other archives, most notably: The National Archives holds the following proportions of surviving crew lists and agreements after 1861: Local archives took some of the records for the period 1863-1913 (see section 12). The lady then tied her yacht up to a buoy (a forbidden practice carrying a heavy fine), and two days later Southampton Harbour Board received a letter from the lady alleging her yacht had been 'interfered with' by the QUEEN ELIZABETH. A fortnight later, on Monday 20th August 1945, the QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived in Southampton for the first time - four and a half years late. Sir James Bisset was in command of the QUEEN ELIZABETH for many of these 'shuttle' voyages. Two of the ship's fire warning system brass plaques were recovered by a dredger, and were displayed at The Aberdeen Boat Club in Hong Kong in an exhibit about the ship. 1951onwards Altogether the QUEEN ELIZABETH made 35 round voyages across the North Atlantic on the 'G.I. RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Restaurant. During this time, and for a while after, she was under American control through a lend-lease agreement. The fewer crossings were due to the Elizabeth's extended overhaul during which stabilisers were fitted, and if she had made her usual 44 crossings then the results might have been very different. A barrier was then constructed around the hull to shut her off from the river and to prevent the Clyde-borne silt building up around and under the hull. Only a little fuel remained after the transatlantic crossing, but a barge moved alongside to take it off as necessary. This 'Glee Party', as it was known, then toured the vessel deck by deck. We hold just 10% of the surviving records for this period. WebLists can also include passengers who were family members of seamen. She also has the distinction of being the largest-ever riveted ship by gross tonnage. The continuing popularity of the 'Queens' was shown by the fact that they carried 110,800 passengers between them in 1960. Winter cruises from New York to the West Indies were poorly patronised and one was cancelled and replaced with an unscheduled Atlantic crossing. The dock would have to be 124 feet wide at its entrance and have a minimum depth of 40 feet. 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